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September 30, 2008

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mark

I've been working on something similar, a long story or novella by Julio Cortázar called "El perseguidor" whose main character, Johnny Carter (Johnny Hodges + Benny Carter?) is based on Charlie Parker. The narrator is a jazz critic who has a biography out about Carter. But the text we're reading isn't the book, it's rather a meditation about his relationship Johnny. If the biography is writing about jazz, the text we are reading is trying to be "jazz writing." I'm not sure Cortázar pulls it off, though. To me it comes off as discursive and rambling, while a Parker or Gillespie phrase (while improvised) is still structured and like the voice. I can see the want to do "jazz writing": improvisational, spontaneous, but because of the question of time, and with Diz and Bird, velocity, it doesn't translate. And speaking of velocity, I sense that the guy in the video can't get nearly as many words in as Bird and Diz get in notes. Many notes are lost. There is time or swing in jazz that is so hard to capture in écriture. I think Ken Nordine succeeds in a way where Cortázar and Kerouac fail, because of the fact that word jazz is not only text but sound too.

mark

Just one more thing. listening to Parker, I'm more and more convinced that he was a blues player, not for his harmonics world, but for his accentuation. How can you get that in words? Maybe through humor and (I don't want to say it) timing. Cf. Ralph Ellison's essay on Parker, which asks, what sort of bird is he? Answer? a mockingbird.

rootlesscosmo

I'm struck by the performer's expression, which suggests he hears Bird and Dizzy as engaged in a dispute. It's one reading, but not the first that would have occurred to me.

ben wolfson

You could probably do it with the music on this album: http://www.dustedmagazine.com/reviews/3681

brent

a different direction, but up the same alley: check out jason moran's speech-to-music translations. on a recent CD he uses some recorded cellphone conversations in turkish to inspire the lines of his compositions. it works well and is not nearly as hokey as it might sound. can't find a youtube of it but i could drop the cd by sometime.

Julia Davis

I really loved this Leap Frog Video. Thank you so much for posting it. I'm with mark on the on the accentuation. BTW this is kinda random but have you ever heard of classical pianist Ronnie Segev http://www.ronniesegev.info ? He's a brilliant artist. If you aren't familiar with who he is, he has this organization: http://www.tocmusic.com that donates music lessons and instruments to kids in need. He also plays around New York City... I found Ronnie Segev's schedule here if anyone is interested in checking out the next concert: http://ronniesegev.net/ronnie-segev-schedule.html online.

Evan T.

Thanks so much for posting this. I love the question "Can you do anything like this with any other kind of music?". My immediate thought is to throw it to students to figure it out - the process of having them figure it out could be a really interesting exercise and in a way this type of video making or gesturing? could be used as pedagogy. I'm thinking in terms of public school students but it might work well in a university setting as well. It could really help younger students who don't play instruments get an embodied sense of phrasing while trying it out I bet. Rootlesscosmo's comment about the interpretation is also an interesting angle as well - how might students express their interpretation - Could lead to some really interesting discussions.. I'm going to have to keep thinking on it for pedagogical implications but thanks again for putting it out there!

Evan T.

Thanks so much for posting this. I love the question "Can you do anything like this with any other kind of music?". My immediate thought is to throw it to students to figure it out - the process of having them figure it out could be a really interesting exercise and in a way this type of video making or gesturing? could be used as pedagogy. I'm thinking in terms of public school students but it might work well in a university setting as well. It could really help younger students who don't play instruments get an embodied sense of phrasing while trying it out I bet. Rootlesscosmo's comment about the interpretation is also an interesting angle as well - how might students express their interpretation - Could lead to some really interesting discussions.. I'm going to have to keep thinking on it for pedagogical implications but thanks again for putting it out there!

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