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August 27, 2008

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Hey Phil, long time, no comment. I'm another middle aged white guy who likes hip-hop (I'm a hyphenator). I remember when my brother and I first heard it, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, Kurtis Blow. It must have been about 1980, it seemed so fresh and so different. We started buying every record we could find, those Sugarhill releases in the light blue covers. I think by that time we had had about all of the Allman Brothers we could take. While I like electric guitar (I had Hendrix posters on my walls as a teen), I think I started getting a little sick of it with teen angst bands who tried to do Nirvana without the talent, or maybe sensibility is the word. Personally, I wouldn't mind hearing some more bass clarinet. My age shows in my taste: A Tribe Called Quest, The Jungle Brothers, Public Enemy, though I won't deny that Lil Wayne can really rap. I think the words need to evolve: start out as two words, hip hop; become hyphenated, and then, at maturity, morph into oneness: hiphop. BTW, it was the 10 commandments article that drew my attention to this blog.

"hip hop, Hip Hop, hip-hop, hiphop, Hiphop"

You left out the most ridiculous option of all (actually the only ridiculous option), the one that The Wire uses for reasons best known to themselves: "HipHop".

I just want to go on record as saying that I'm immediately suspicious of anybody who likes Neil Young. (Although I admit I quite like the acoustic version of Hey Hey My My.) I'm not much of a Hiphop fan either, but I'm much less suspicious of people who like it. On the other hand, I was born in 1979, so I'm younger than most of the people you're having problems with.

Phil,

Madvilliany - man, it's the shit! If you haven't heard it, get it NOW!

I think it's better to hyphenate it if only in order to distinguish it from the "Hi-Phop" movement, a type of music made by fops who are high.

Here I was thinking that one of the cool things about the electric guitar was its total mutability as opposed to the homogenous Triple Rectifier whatever that seems to be in vogue. But namechecking Fripp certainly acknowledges that.

However, one way of telling the story has hiphop's turntables reminding the guitar of this neat trick. (Through Tom Morello, of course)

My Dear Phil.
You are NOT middle-aged! Yet! I was born in 1963. I middle-aged. Anybody born after 1968 (ah Woodstock!) can like hiphop without embarassment.

Yeah, watch out about that "middle-aged" thing. Us poor Nixon babies are still young! Or at least we're immature. One or the other.

I managed to avoid the "trendy" label in my hiphop fanhood by a) coming to it very late (the last ten years or so), and b) acquiring a taste for mostly old-school, 1980s, pre-Dr. Dre repertoire. One of the happiest nerd days of my life was when a teenager gave me that "jeez you're old" look-and-sigh because I was espousing the virtues of Eric B. and Rakim.

By the way, my wife's favorite opera is "Fidelio," but she's a singer, so it might be like a mountain climber saying their favorite hill is K2.

"I just want to go on record as saying that I'm immediately suspicious of anybody who likes Neil Young"

Arc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arc_(album) is pretty sweet.

Phil,

None of your suggested spellings work. Successful popular music genres are monosyllabic: blues, jazz, soul, rock, pop and, I would suggest, rap.

Apologies for the late comment. I drift off sometimes. (A bit like your blog...)

Yeah, but calling an instrumental album by Cut Chemist or Faust and Shortee "rap" is wrong on the face of it. Rapping is MCing, and hiphop heads get mad when you suggest that MCing is all there is to the music. Perhaps for this reason, a lot of fans make a distinction between "rap" (meaning the more radio-friendly, commercially successful, mainstream stuff) and "hiphop" (harder, more demanding, more obscure, sometimes artier).

Good point, and "distinction" is a great word to use in that context. For Cut Chemist, Stones Throw, turntablism and related chinstrokes I'd suggest "prog rap". Step forward, the Emerson Lake & Palmer of rap.

Happy new year, by the way.

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